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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:56 am 
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Steve,

Which footboard are you using???

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:58 am 
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Which footboard are you using???


He's using the standard short board

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:04 am 
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Steve-O, take a breath. I might suggest slightly increasing the tension. I know it sounds weird, but these pedals IMO react better with a bit of tension.
Right now I bounce between my Tricks, my Axis, and my newly acquired DW5000's. I believe without over thinking I can be comfy on all of them.
You know as well as I do that the skill is in the foot. You just need to find the sweet spot. After that, you will be sold, I hope.
Granted I did just get home from a refurb on some CB's, with a CB pedal, yuck. Couldn't even kick a double. Makes me appreciate what I have.

Its all good Brother B....I havent given up yet. I can play the pedals, but they dont feel like I would like them to feel. Keep in mind everyone that Im comparing them to another great pedal, the DW 9000, which felt great to me before. So, if I cant get them in the ball park of feeling good to me, then what is the point? Its like dating a super hot chick who sucks in bed :?

I didnt mess with them it all last night, but I did take a pic this morning. I also noticed that by readjusting on the fly at gigs, the set up has changed a little from how I had it initially (not much though). I either have them adjusted wrong, OR Im not one of those guys who likes the "feel" of a direct drive pedal. What Dose said about how he loves the 9000 and that he cant get the Trick to emulate it holds a lot of weight with me.

Yes, these are the short boards.

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:13 am 
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Try setting your beater angle at 10, set the footboard height to the line between 5 & 6 and dial in about 1 more full turn of the spring nob. Leave the stroke in the middle hole.

Give that a try

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
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Try setting your beater angle at 10, set the footboard height to the line between 5 & 6 and dial in about 1 more full turn of the spring nob. Leave the stroke in the middle hole.

Give that a try

Thanks....will do.

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:40 pm 
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Those are the settings it came out of the box with, except my tension is way less. I still am not diggin it.

I'm going to leave it alone for now. I'm developing a really negative attitude towards it at this point...so it's best to step away and come back to it.

Thanks for all the input guys. It looks like this thread helped Tamadude and that's cool :)

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 am 
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I'm a happy camper!

I've now had three solid 4+ hour rehearsals with the Pro1-V and can officially say I've got it dialed in. This was on the single version but that's the beauty of it as I can easily dupe the settings to my double. The DW beater weights were moved to mid-shaft.

My 'ol reliable Iron Cobra was there waiting just in case I didn't feel comfortable. But now I'm more than 95% good with these beasts. The other 5% will come as I tweak here and there. I did like the idea of grip tape on the pedal board so I may add a strip or two. Oh, should also mention I ended up sticking with the standard boards. Now, what do I do with the three BigFoots I got layin around?? LOL

I noticed that I didn't feel any cramping in my calf or shin after 4+ hours of playing three nights in a row. There's less effort to get the thing movin and that "on the fly" spring adjustment is slick! Even an 1/8th turn made a difference.

Me happy. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:12 am 
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TamaDude wrote:
I'm a happy camper!

I've now had three solid 4+ hour rehearsals with the Pro1-V and can officially say I've got it dialed in. This was on the single version but that's the beauty of it as I can easily dupe the settings to my double. The DW beater weights were moved to mid-shaft.

My 'ol reliable Iron Cobra was there waiting just in case I didn't feel comfortable. But now I'm more than 95% good with these beasts. The other 5% will come as I tweak here and there. I did like the idea of grip tape on the pedal board so I may add a strip or two. Oh, should also mention I ended up sticking with the standard boards. Now, what do I do with the three BigFoots I got layin around?? LOL

I noticed that I didn't feel any cramping in my calf or shin after 4+ hours of playing three nights in a row. There's less effort to get the thing movin and that "on the fly" spring adjustment is slick! Even an 1/8th turn made a difference.

Me happy. :D

Very cool J-dub!
Maybe down the line I may take 2 of the Bigfoots off your hands, provided you don't find a home for them before that.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:09 pm 
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bong, you have the short footboards?

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 Post subject: Re: Difficulties transitioning to the Trick Pro1-V
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xDoSeOnEx wrote:
bong, you have the short footboards?

Yup.
I've played Mikes' Bigfoots for a total of about 7 minutes, so I really can't compare.

Hey, I got an idea!
J-Dub, would you send me one of the boards to try out for real? Of course I'll pay shipping and all that. That would be super if you could. Obviously I would return it on my dime too. I'd really like to compare short to long side by each.
We can continue in PM if you'd like.

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Brother_Bong wrote:
Hey, I got an idea!
J-Dub, would you send me one of the boards to try out for real? Of course I'll pay shipping and all that. That would be super if you could. Obviously I would return it on my dime too. I'd really like to compare short to long side by each.
We can continue in PM if you'd like.



Yeah, I can do that. Give me a day or two to get it sent out. Shoot me your address via PM. We'll sort out the shipping costs lata. :)

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Bong, would you want to trade footboards temporarily? and then maybe make it permanent depending on how they feel? I want to switch to shortboards but i'm not positive. Sounds like your in the same boat.

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Bong, would you want to trade footboards temporarily? and then maybe make it permanent depending on how they feel? I want to switch to shortboards but i'm not positive. Sounds like your in the same boat.

Let me see how the test drive goes. They might NOT be for me.

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If it helps anybody, I owned both at the same time for a few months before passing my short ones on to Bong. It wasn't meant as a comparison period, but I switched back and forth many times because I just couldn't get used to the Bigfoot. 1 1/2 years later, my thoughts are that it all depends on how you play. My singles were a little faster, and seemed to be much easier, with the shortboards. I don't have huge feet, so the longboards served me no benefits outside of making doubles feel easier (not they necessarily were easier). I wanted to play doubles the majority of the time, so I took the time to adjust, which was a few weeks, and love the longboards now. That said, if fast singles were my game I'd have stuck with the shortboards.

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xDoSeOnEx wrote:
Bong, would you want to trade footboards temporarily? and then maybe make it permanent depending on how they feel? I want to switch to shortboards but i'm not positive. Sounds like your in the same boat.

Let me see how the test drive goes. They might NOT be for me.

To expound on this Matt, I can't be without my shorts while I try the longs. See what I mean? That's why I need to do the test with both of them.

And to Chris' point, I don't do doubles so I wonder if there will be an advantage. But, I do have size 12's, and MAYBE, just maybe I can find the doubles with them.

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Well if you end up liking the bigfoots better and want to switch, I'll trade my footboards for yours if you'd like.

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i had the same trouble with the bigfoots. i was umming and ahhring for a long time. ive finally found some settings on the big foot that seem to be doing pretty well. speed wise the shorts and bigfoots are the same but i kind of feel like the bigfoots get more power and a bigger return stroke. the main trouble i had with the bigfoots was i never could feel well balanced in comparsion with the shortboards. so i suppose i could say i played a little faster on the shortboards just because i had better balance. however, i havent played on sjhortboards in about 4 months so i'd have to go and figure out the settings i had for them if i was to change...

what settings are short board players on here using?

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I just got my Bigfoots last week and I've had a couple of rehearsals and a gig to try them out. So far I have adjusted the foot board angle, to the top setting but nothing else as yet.

I found the first session felt.. different, but actually seem to be adapting rather quickly. I much prefer the feel to the Iron Cobras. :-) Looking forward to really getting to grips with them now.

Thanks for sorting that Mike.

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update: i switched back to shortboards. it just feels..... right.

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update #2: i changed back to the settings i was using a few years ago which i should never have strayed from. It feels comfortable, hence i can play a lot faster.

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spring tension = 70-80% tight
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